Thursday, May 21, 2009

Martí and the Need for a "Catholic Reformation," or "Padre Gasolina" and Father Cutié

One of the most controversial of José Martí's writings is his "Carta al hombre del campo," in which he advised the common man not to pay the local priest to baptize his son but to do it himself for no one loved him more or was better qualified to open the door to eternal life than he who had giving life to him. Martí felt the duty to protect the poor from exploitation by dishonest priests no less than by venal rulers, not because he was anti-clerical but because he valued humanity above dogma and could not conceive of "men of God" who were not also devoted to mankind. Socially-conscious priests, who put man's needs before the temporal interests (real or imagined) of the Church, commanded his respect and were defended strenuously by him. The anti-clericalism of the Enlightenment, which was still then and long would remain a dominant theme of continental politics, was always rejected by Martí, who was never an enemy of established religion, but, on the contrary, believed in the essential truth and value of all religions. His censure was reserved for those who violated that truth for their own gain, the real enemies of religion.

Clerical misconduct in Martí's day consisted chiefly in violations of the confessional seal. Many priests then believed in the divine right of kings as many still do in the divine right of dictators, and they regarded it as both their religious and patriotic duty to denounce confessions or even suspicions of disloyalty to the Crown. It didn't hurt, either, that this was also the most efficacious means of obtaining preferment in the Church. In effect every neighborhood church was a CDR, except that the "D" then represented "Destrucción." Other priests, less "high-minded" and more venal, would blackmail penitents for money or sexual favors. The rural clergy were the worst because they were largely unregulated and their victims the most vulnerable.

Priestly celibacy, as such, was the least concern of the communicants and not much of a concern for the clergy. Priests made no effort to live double lives because concubinage was the norm and concealment was neither expected nor necessary. The more scrupulous among them were not impeded from becoming husbands and fathers, nor did they have to exercise those roles by stealth. It should be noted that from time to time there were ecclesiastical efforts at "reform." One bishop, Antonio María de Claret, was actually canonized for his success at convincing priests to abandon their wives and children. The people, however, erected a statue to a priest from Jesús del Monte nicknamed "Padre Gasolina"who fathered 12 children and did not abandon them.

Today hypocrisy is more institutionalized within the Church than it ever was in Martí's day. Then what was normal was regarded as "aberrant." In the 20th century what was aberrant came to be regarded as normal. Ironically, abnormality sometimes makes it safer to practice normality. Witness the case of Father Alberto Cutié. Most Catholics (and especially his own predominantly-Cuban parishioners) were actually relieved to know that his indiscretions, however public and notorious, were not predatory or directed at children, and, accordingly, they were disposed not only to forgive but even to justify his conduct. Not that his conduct, of course, needs any justification. If he had fathered a child and abandoned him, as Paraguay's bishop-turned-president did, twice, then his failure as a man would be far more execrable than his failure as a priest. But what Father Cutié did is not censurable in a man or in a priest. Even the Church seems reluctant to condemn with severity Fr. Cutié's departure from the abnormal and inhuman practice of celibacy, almost as if it regarded the story of a sexually active heterosexual priest as good publicity.

The idea of priests as "eunuchs for Christ" (as John Paul II called them) or nuns as "brides of Christ" seems now rather antiquated, not to say ridiculous. Who is this "Christ" who needs "brides" and "eunuchs?" Certainly not the Christ of the New Testament. It sounds more like some Eastern potentate, perhaps Herod himself. Even the Apostle Paul, the most misanthropic of Christ's disciples, though expressing his personal preference for the single life, yet enjoined those who could not sublimate their sexuality to marry and be spared hell thereby.

Celibacy in the Catholic Church is not a dogma but an administrative rule adopted 700 years ago to ensure its temporal power. That is, its wealth. Married priests tended to be as fond of their children as other men are and as desirous of providing for their earthly needs. Had they been content to deny them their protection, letting them wander the streets as so many "waifs of Christ," priests might never have been forced to embrace the rule of celibacy; but when they started to endow dowries for their daughters and bequeath the "Church's property" to their sons, the pope dictated that henceforth no priest would be allowed to marry, which meant that all priests would have to be celibate because extramarital sex was also forbidden. Whereas Paul had prescribed marriage as a "cure" for fornication, the medieval popes substituted celibacy, except that a hair from the dog that bit you is not a good cure for rabies.

While celibacy turns many priests into hypocrites, it does not turn them into pedophiles. But it is undoubtedly true that it discourages vocations among normal men, creating a void that pedophiles are only too happy to fill. What better cover can there be for the most sexually aberrant of men than to appear as sexless before the world? In fact, these priests were not above sex as much as beneath it. The scandals of pedophile priests and the bishops who abetted and even facilitated their predations did more harm to the Church than all the fictions of the Da Vinci Code.

When isolated cases of abuse, concealed and unaddressed by the Church, suddenly exploded with all the accumulated force of decades, the exceptions came to define the conduct of the entire priesthood, when, actually, the incidence of pedophilia among priests is no higher than among the general population. Here, however, is one instance when the media are not be faulted. If the Church had not so zealously collected its skeletons for all these years, the closet would not have been so full when it finally burst open. The house-cleaning that had so long been deferred, which the Church hoped might not even be necessary, required now the levelling of walls and uprooting of foundations, literally, to compensate the victims of abuse with billions of dollars in settlements. And there is the final irony: the Church does not allow priests to marry because then it might have to pay them a living wage to support their families. Instead, it has been obliged to spend billions to make a tardy amends for the natural consequences of its unnatural policies. The closure and sale of churches and schools, and the general erosion of the Church's temporal and spiritual authority, is the price which it has had to pay to maintain the rule of celibacy which was initially instituted to preserve intact its patrimony and power.

Father Alberto Cutié is in a privileged position in respect to other priests because he is an attraction and rainmaker, and this may have caused him to assume (correctly) that the Church would accommodate his particular lifestyle, as it has always done for a small clique of powerful hierarchs. When compromising photographs of Cutié with a woman were published in a Spanish-language gossip magazine, the Church had no choice but to publicly lament what it had privately sanctioned for years, and still its response could not have been more equivocal, leaving all decisions concerning his future in his own hands.

Father Cutié, who does not seem quite grateful for this special dispensation, has raised the possibility that he may have been set up by the Castro regime (the Cuban equivalent of "the devil made me do it."). It reminded me of Reynaldo Arenas' assertion in his political testament that Fidel Castro was responsible for his AIDS. That may well be the only thing for which Castro was not responsible in that writer's tormented life. A man controls little in this world and less in the nether world that is Castro's Cuba. Of one thing, at least, he is still master, here or in Cuba; and Castro, unless corporeally present, has nothing to do with that. Fidel Castro has robbed all Cubans of much of their autonomy. I see no reason to surrender to him control of aspects of our lives which are not in his control. Personal responsibility for one's acts and the adverse consequences which sometimes attend those acts demands a level of maturity which the Church is unwilling to grant its servants. Celibacy, ultimately, is enforced infantilization, which sacrifices real morality to superficial morality. What is merely superficial is always most vulnerable. It is time for the Church to abandon its revival of the Cult of Hymen and demand of its priests at least the same level of responsibility for their sexuality as it reposes in laymen. Responsibility, however, is impossible without choice. The Greek Orthodox tradition, which runs parallel to the Roman, has always allowed priests to choose between marriage and celibacy. Unless the Roman Catholic Church follows suit, Byzantium may yet again conquer Rome.

When Martí said that "Christianity died at the hands of Catholicism," I think this is what he meant: the extraneous elements which the Church adopted from paganism for less than Christian reasons are subverting the message of Christ and should be discarded before Christianity itself is the casualty.

88 comments:

Vana said...

Manuel:

What a pleasant surprise to find a post from you! What a read!

Marti did not tolerate tyrants of any kind, the thought of a man not being able to think freely, tormented him, I find nothing controversial in his letter, he was right to warn the blind.

We are witnessing the fall of an institution that has been around for hundreds of years, unless it amends it's ways. Babylon the Great is paying dearly for her mistakes, sadly she must save herself.

A Cuban In London said...

Manuel, first of all, thanks for your two comements on my blog. Secondly, I consider myself 'Martiano', but not in the 'Revolutionary' sense but in the scholar sense. I started discovering Marti after I got fed up of being spoonfed Marti in school. I have found our National Hero (I take it you're Cuban, too, mate) to be much wiser and visionary than the perfect Christ-like figure they teach us in school back in Cuba. Thanks for this post and for commenting on my tribute to Benedetti.

To repeat and to add to what I already mentioned on my blog. Some of the history I left behind in Cuba was forced upon me and some of it I accessed it myself through a conscientious process. Neither can be jettisoned just like that. Castor and his ilk always worked on the fear factor, on the absolutist factor, on the 'my country right or worng' factor. I cannot allow myself to be like that when I live now in a country where I have more relative freedom. Did Benedetti cosy up with the Castro political machinery? So, what! So, did Silvio Rodriguez after being an outcast, so did Gabo (and for the record I think him an overrated writer, but not because he is an apologist, but because his work doesn't come up to scratch for me). When I play Sivio, or when I read 'Tactica y Estrategia', I'm not thinking of the artist shaking the dictator's hand, I'm being transported to a place by the music or by the poem, a place where I can be me, away from dictatorships and totalitarianism.

Many thanks. I'll be back.

Greetings from London.

Manuel A.Tellechea said...

Vana:

I'm glad to be back and hope to return regularly from now on. I should have returned sooner if I had convinced myself that there was anything of importance for me to say. But all proceeds as I said it would when I closed the Review
of Cuban-American Blogs
in January. Sometimes I am tempted to re-post what I predicted, but there would be no point to it except to prove myself a good doomsayer. However, if, miracles of miracles, I am proved wrong, now or at any time in the future, I shall not shy from saying so as it would be a great relief to me and most welcome development.

Your presence here, my dear friend, makes it feel like the old days. As always, you can encapsulate my thought much better than I ever could.

Manuel A.Tellechea said...

Tony:

I believe there are at least as many victims of Castro whose art deserves our praise and a place in our memory as there are adulators with claims to our admiration or remembrance as artists. When I have ceased admiring the victims (which I don't think I ever shall) then I might consider the artistic claims of those who were silent before tyranny or complicitous with it.

I find it frankly impossible to admire as an artist someone whom I don't admire as a man. However, I would not deny you the right to do so even if they (Benedetti, Rodríguez, etc.) applauded, as they did, the thugs who silenced you and all other Cubans. The saddest thing is that your generosity would only have been mocked by them.

I'm sure that Silvio has buried in a can hundreds of songs critical of Castro which he never dared to sing. He must also have already written a centenary ode to Fidel. We'll see which he sings first. His "art," as that of so many others, is guided by the weatherbane of opportunism. I can see nothing to admire in him or it. But you, of course, are free to do so. Yes, free to do so.

John said...

When Martí said that "Christianity died at the hands of Catholicism," I think this is what he meant: the extraneous elements which the Church adopted from paganism for less than Christian reasons are subverting the message of Christ and should be discarded before Christianity itself is the casualty.Your closer, and perhaps this recent post, has left me speechless. I will ruminate and return with more comments. In the mean time, I'm glad to see your return, and as an avid Claret reader I am curious as to what source are you drawing upon with Claret encouraging Priests to abandon mistresses (this is not a challenge but rather for my further reading).

A Cuban In London said...

'The tango has its roots in Cuba.'

No, Manolin, tango has its roots in Africa, to be more precise in the region comprising former Zaire, modern Angola and the Republic of Congo. To be even more precise and pedantic, 'tango' is a word that certain scholars attribute to the Bantu culture, predominant in the aforementioned regions.

Still, I loved your contribution. But you never mentioned the music. What did you think of the music, Manolito :-)?

And in respect of 'mate', as far as I know, it is a traditional South American drink. Brits, I'll have you know. used to import tea from former Ceylon, nowadays Sri Lanka and other places in the subcontinent and the Far East.

I was introduced to mate by a couple of Chileans who were at the Saul Delgado with me in the late 80s. I remember taking a sip through the 'bombilla' and spitting out the liquid. 'It was too bitter' I said. Put some sugar in it, then. I did. I put eight spoonfuls (I'm Cuban, ain't I?). You had to be there, Mano, to see their eyes opening wider and wider. 'You can't do that, that's not mate, that's sugar with some mate in it!'. Nowadays, I drink it straight.

Manuel A.Tellechea said...

Tony:

You have re-invented Materva. Of course, you don't know what "Materva" is. It has not been brewed in Cuba since the Revolution. It is carbonated mate tea with lots and lots of sugar which was once as popular in Cuba as Coca-Cola. If you ever visit Miami, pick up a can. It's one of those "revivals" that never died.

As for the tango (indeed, as for everything), I am Cuban-centric. It required the sieve (or filter) of Cuba for tango to become tango and radiate to other parts of the Americas. Otherwise they would still be banging those bongos in Africa to no effect as far as we are concerned.

I urge readers who are a little puzzled by this exchange to visit your blog and it will all be made clear. Do so by clicking on A Cuban in London.

Manuel A.Tellechea said...

John:

I am pleased to have been able to engage your attention on this very important subject and look forward to your impressions of priestly celibacy and its relevance (or lack thereof) in the Church today.

There is no doubt that St. Antonio María Claret was the reformer -- and perhaps even the savior -- of the Cuban Church in the 19th century.

His sainthood is obviously founded on his work in Cuba, as his stint as Isabel II's confessor, though perhaps a greater trial, did not reap so copious a harvest. Claret clearly made the Cuban clergy more "chaste." I doubt he had the same success with Spain's nymphomaniac queen.

When he arrived as Archbishop of Santiago de Cuba, Claret was confronted with the total collapse of ecclesiastical authority in the region. Refusing to allow widespread abuses such as concubinage, which had the sanction of centuries among the local clergy, Claret mounted a donkey, as had his master, and set out on a pilgrimage to return all recalcitrant priests in the Cuban hinterlands to the bosom of the Church (with the proviso, of course, that they give up those other bosoms).

In effect, Claret insisted that to remain in the priesthood they had to abandon their wives and families, and most in fact did. It is always easy to be immoral when the arbiters of morality sanction and present it as the only "holy" course.

Centurion said...

mansuelo cada vez que te atreves a sacar la cara del escondite tuyo en las cloacas de Union City , te cagas fuera del cajon , cobarde fuiste , eres y siempre seras , solo la burra Vana tiene la osadia de oler tu mierda y decir que es perfume , como siempre y al igual que tu se pasa la vida hablando mierda , ustedes no son cubanos y nunca lo seran , punto y aparte

A Cuban In London said...

Thanks for the Tony, man, but which one is it: Curtis? Montana? Anyway, my mum and grandma still called the 'refresquito negro de botella' Materva when I was little. So, yes, I knew what Materva was. Funny enough, we didn't pronounce it that way, but 'Matelva', or in good Cuban "Mate'ba". Cheerio, bro.

Greetings from London.

Manuel A.Tellechea said...

I had seen you addressed as "Tony" on your blog and assumed that was your name. "My bad," as they say in these parts.

John said...

Hi Manolo,

This is Part One

I have a lot going on in my life, which allows me little time to blog (either on my current or former blog CAP) let alone comment. With that said I was left speechless because I didn't necessarily agree with you while at the same time not necessarily disagreeing with you.

So where to start?

St. Claret:
I am very honored to say that for 6 years of my life I was a Claretian Missionary --the order that was founded by St. Claret. Three of those years were in temporary vows. And though I decided that religious life wasn't for me, I grew very close with the order and with the writing's of it's founder. Now, I had asked you for a source earlier, because I was not able to bring his works let alone original manuscripts with me when I left --I asked for a source in hopes to jog my memory. Anyhow, you comment about him riding a donkey did the trick and yes it is true that when Claret arrived to Cuba the sexual immorality was atrocious. However, it was not only with the clergy. Criollo laymen were having sexual relations with black women, and using the law at the time to not marry them (black weren't allowed to marry whites). Often, these men were already married, and used to law to justify the affair. One of the first things Claret did was abolish this law and forced the affairs to stop and enforced live-in-lovers to get married. More than a clergy issue, the problem was a culture oppressed under the shackles of the Spanish monarchy. Allowing deviance to run rampant in a society is a way for an authority to maintain control (this is no different than the "educated prostitutes" in Castro's Cuba.) And because Claret kept trying to break these social forms of control, that he became too radical for the Monarchy's liking and was thus pulled out of Cuba and placed right beside the Queen as confessor. (A position he detested greatly.)

Marti:
"Christianity died at the hands of Catholicism,"
I have heard this quote before, though I'm not sure where the source originates. I do recall some writings in which Marti has less than favorable remarks about the "Archbishop" (of Havana). And judging from what I have read of Marti, it would seem to me that Christianity died at the hands of Catholicism's medieval monarchy system. As we know, Marti was no stranger to having an affair and thus Married or celibate an affair can happen to anyone. Now, I do agree that there are much extraneous elements in the Church that should be discarded. I believe that the Council of Nicea (325 AD), the Council of Trent (1564 AD), and the second Vatican Council (1965 AD) are prime examples of the Church discarding extraneous elements. However, the Church is so big and spans over so many different cultures that it takes hundred's of years to catch everyone and everything up to the same page.

John said...

This is Part Two

This now leads to Priestly Celibacy:
It may shock many that within the Catholic church there are different Rites, and the Byzantine Rite allows Priests to be married. I am not speaking of the Greek/Russian Orthodox, but Byzantine Catholics who adhere to the Papacy. Also, it may shock many that within the Latin Rite (the one we commonly know) there are married men who are permitted to be practicing Priests --despite the Pope's mandate on celibacy in the Latin Rite. These married clergy are converts from Anglicanism, who receive a special dispensation if they are both married and ordained prior to their conversion to Catholicism.

As a former seminarian and a soon to be husband it may shock some that I am not in favor of married Priests within the Latin Rite --as it is currently practiced. I don't know how the Byzantine's and the Anglican Converts do it. But the time and dedication that a Priest has to his community and Church leaves little room for a healthy married life. The demand on a Priest is greater than that of a Surgeon, and as one who works in the Church I cannot fathom intermingling my former Religious life with my currently active Lay life in the Church.

The current call to be a Priest is a choice to lead and dedicate ones entirety to the Sacramental and Spiritual life of the Church. It's not a call to be a "preacher" in the protestant sense. And infidelity is infidelity whether it's a Priest who broke his promise, a single white Criollo having relations with a Negra and dodging marriage in colonial Cuba, or Jose Marí and Carmen Mantilla (to name a few). A married Priest is not going to guarantee the end of any future Padre Gasolina's. As with anyone in a position of authority or celebrity, the power and pedestal that is given to a Priest (whether he want's it or not) leaves him internally weak and susceptible to corruption -this is true with "stars", politicians, professors, and doctors to name a few.

Now, does the current face Priesthood need to be revisited and revised as a whole? That my friend is a whole other animal and a different topic all together.

John said...

Centurion.

¡Esta bueno ya! Has indicado bien que eres el cubanisimo de los cubanisimos. Cómete una pizza de perro o una pan con pasta y cálmate los nervios mi ambia. Es obvio que has confundido la boca con el culo comiendo mierda y hablando diarea.

MANUEL TELLECHEA said...

John
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Centurion.

¡Esta bueno ya! Has indicado bien que eres el cubanisimo de los cubanisimos. Cómete una pizza de perro o una pan con pasta y cálmate los nervios mi ambia. Es obvio que has confundido la boca con el culo comiendo mierda y hablando diarea.


Hey , John modifica tu lengua . Es eso lo que te enseñan en la iglesia

Centurion said...

john,

en español , el idioma que hablamos casi todos los cubanos , no se sabe el significado de la palabra "diarea" en el contexto de tus insultos catolicos , sin embargo , si sabemos que es "diarrea" como la que tu tienes , la que te enseñaron en tu iglesia pagana que aparenta ser cristiana , nosotros los verdaderos cubanos no nos comemos los paquetes que ustedes los impostores se comen por la boca y por el culo , como decimos en Cuba:

el coño de tu ....

o en los barrios nichardos , uno de los cuales vio nacer y crecer a tellechea:

el coño e tu ....

o en los solares habaneros de donde emana la jerga de casi toda La Habana:

e' coño e tu ...,

ahora vete a rezar = comer mierda

de la Cova said...

Ironically, in spite of what Martí advised to the peasants, he had his own son baptized in the Monserrate Parish in Havana
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/marti/jmarti-1.gif
Martí's conflict with the Catholic Church was in part due to his affiliation with Freemasonry.

John said...

De La Cova:
Freemasonry! Wow, I never thought of that connection. It wasn't until 1965 that Freemasonry accepted by the Church. And so the tension would've been high for Marti at that time.


Centurion:
¡Que genial! Me encontrastes por el profile! DI-VI-NO. Y tu me tratas de insultar sobre una palabra mal escrita cuando tu no sabes usar la coma. ¡Magnifico! Me has dado una critica mas sinrazon que he leído en mi vida.

¿Oye y te he dicho algo que te insultas tan profundamente que me tienes que responder en esa manera?

He dicho que eres el cubanisimo de los cubanisimos. Y mira como tu lo eres insultándome de parte de la isla entera.

Y todavia tu te ofendes.

Que odio y que fragilidad.


MAT:
Mad house? eh?

de la Cova said...

Martí was initiated into Freemasonry in Liberal Spain. His Masonic jewels are in the Grand Lodge of Cuba in Havana. Col. Ximénez de Sandoval acknowledged to Alfonso Hernández Catá that he found Masonic emblems on Marti's cadaver, which he recognized since he was a Freemason. Almost all Cuban independence leaders, including Céspedes, Agramonte, Máximo Gómez, and Maceo were Freemasons. See:
Ponte Domínguez, Francisco J. "La Masonería en la Independencia de Cuba." La Habana: Editorial "Modas Magazine," 1954.

Manuel A.Tellechea said...

John:

You are well acquainted with Fantomas (aka Centurion) and his bag of tricks. On this thread he has hijacked my moniker to post personal information about you. I have removed this comment. Although I have always allowed him wide latitude for his inanities, I draw the line at identity theft.

Manuel A.Tellechea said...

John:

You are entirely right that a generalized climate of immorality corrupted the colonial Church, with outstanding exceptions; but it should have been the mission of the servants of Christ to steer society away from immorality rather than embrace it themselves. Claret's reforms were necessary and in the main useful. I should have preferred him to counsel married priests to become good husbands and fathers rather than embrace celibacy anew while discarding the fruits of past concupiscense; but perhaps Claret was as bound by his times as the Church itself.

I agree with you, also, that there has been much evolution in the Church in the last 150 years. We differ only in that I believe and hope that this trend culminates in an acceptance of sexuality as a proof of humanity and its rejection as the negation of a divine gift, which priests should no more be required to renounce than other men. The supposed "energy" of the sexless is not constructive and it certainly is not fecund. It is, rather, arid ground for weeds of all sorts, which the Church has lately learned cannot be easily cleared.

John said...

Manolo,

Thank you and besides anyone can click and see my profile. I've dealt with nastier fish, and I know what authorities to call if I feel that there is the slightest threat to a public defamation of my character or even an inkling threat to my life. This is the USA and I do not live in fear. Their rights end where my rights begin, and the FBI is a phone call away. This is nothing new, and I think they're smart enough to know when to stop.

I don't think Centurion and Fantomas are the same person. Fantomas has a short choppy Spanish while Canturion's Spanish is very long and fluid. Also, Centurion uses commas like a third grader would when writing in English (as opposed to a third grader who's native language is Spanish. The rules for commas are different in Spanish and English.)

With that said, I hope my two extra long posts are somewhat cogent. I typed it in a hurry during my lunch break, and panicked when blogger forced me to cut the posts up. I look forward for your response. Now, I'm going to be out and about the next few days, and so if I don't reply in awhile it is because work has me swamped.

John said...

MAT

I see that we are online at the same time. I perused your response. However, it is almost 2am here and I have to get ready for a rather busy couple of days. I have a response for you, but it will be a few days before I can write it out.

Good night.

Manuel A.Tellechea said...

Tony:

Martí did indeed have his son baptized, and, moreover, stood as godfather at the baptism of his putative daughter, María Mantilla, as well as other children of his friends.

The powerful, we must assume, were less susceptible to abuse by the Church and could afford to indulge in societal conventions which, in their milieu, were pretty much unavoidable unless the recusants were content to become pariahs and have their children ostracized as "bastards" (and there were real limitations attached to that condition).

Guajiros were naturally freer of such strictures because the Church was largely absent from their lives. A priest might appear every 5 or 10 years to marry all the couples and baptize all the children in a community. At all other times men and women were free to live their lives as they wished and did.

Martí advised the "hombre del campo" to forego the expensive option of having a priest perform a rite (baptism) which even the Church recognized could be fulfilled by any Christian. In so doing he was not advising them to leave the Church but recognizing that the Church had largely abandoned them. Those periodic visits, more feared than desired, were occasions for the exploitation of society's most vulnerable members.

Martí, significantly, always longed to be an "hombre del campo" (as the Versos sencillos well attest). In fact, it was his expressed intention, after independence, to retire to the country and become a schoolmaster at a rural school, as he confided to Gonzalo de Quesada.

Manuel A.Tellechea said...

The Masons were indeed the architects of Cuba's independence. All major uprisings against Spanish rule, going back to 1823 and continuing up to 1898, were headed by Masons and usually incubated at their lodges. There is no question that Martí himself was a Mason, although we do not know in which Lodge he was initiated or whether in Cuba, Spain, Mexico or the U.S.

Bolívar, San Martín and Sucre were also Masons, as were most of the leaders of the American Revolution, including Washington and Jefferson. As you know, there was a serious political party in the 19th century, the Anti-Masonic Party, which maintained that a cabal of Masons controlled the U.S. government. I seem to recall that an American president (was it Millard Fillmore?) ran on that ticket after serving his term in office.

Fantomas said...

Manuel no continues diciendo mentiras. Usa el site meter wisely y veras que Fantomas NO es Centurion. Espero que esto quede aclarado para la tranquilidad de tus lectores.

Fantomas said...

Thank you and besides anyone can click and see my profile. I've dealt with nastier fish, and I know what authorities to call if I feel that there is the slightest threat to a public defamation of my character or even an inkling threat to my life. This is the USA and I do not live in fear. Their rights end where my rights begin, and the FBI is a phone call away. This is nothing new, and I think they're smart enough to know when to stop.

I don't think Centurion and Fantomas are the same person. Fantomas has a short choppy Spanish while Canturion's Spanish is very long and fluid. Also, Centurion uses commas like a third grader would when writing in English (as opposed to a third grader who's native language is Spanish. The rules for commas are different in Spanish and English.)


Manolo, averiguame quien es este John, o sera otra de tus nuevas personalidades

Fantomas said...

Me informan mis fuentes que piensas retomar el Review

¿Es cierto?

Yo me canse de postear alli porque ya no hay quorum

Manuel A.Tellechea said...

UPDATE: Alberto Cutié has announced that he is leaving the Roman Catholic Church to join the Episcopal Church as a married priest.

Another advantage of the Episcopal Church is that, if at some future day, Cutié should decide that he is really gay, he doesn't have to switch churches again because the Episcopalians are OK with that too.

All that he will have to decide now is whether he will be High Church or Low Church.

Fantomas said...

Manuel you have posted a comment about Cutie that is yesterday's news. What is wrong with you?
I have already posted all the info on my blog . Imaginate que me estan entrando 2000 visitas diarias nada mas por google. Pon Padre alberto fotos o ultimas fotos de padre alberto y veras

Mr Cutie will problably be sent here to Puerto Rico his birthplace
He will do the 2 years required studies by the Episcopal Churh to officiate mass. I will be more than glad to interview him later on the radio
Regardless si el padre es gay or not, he will make a lot of money for himself and his new church. the book and movie deals are already in the works. 7 figures. He will still eat hot at night , and have a church . Gano como quiera que sea

Now lets go back to our regular programming. Cuba and the castro's henchmen

sigo?

Fantomas said...

Oye y vamos a ponerle movimiento a los blogs que te veo medio lento

Fantomas said...

lol

Fantomas said...

El Factor Cutie ya empezo

Arquidiócesis de Miami se prepara para cerrar 14 iglesias


CARL JUSTE/MIAMI HERALD FILE
Foto Por JAWEED KALEEM
JKALEEM@MIAMIHERALD.COM
Los católicos del sur de la Florida tal vez sepan cuál será el destino de sus iglesias en las misas del próximo domingo, cuando se espera que los pastores anunciarán el cierre de 14 iglesias pertenecientes a la Arquidiócesis de Miami.

Ocho parroquias católicas y seis misiones y apostolados se fusionarán con otras comunidades católicas cercanas en los próximos meses, dijo la portavoz Mary Ross Agosta.

Agosta dijo que la Arquidiócesis dará a conocer los nombres en el plazo de una semana, y que los sacerdotes de dichas iglesias deberían notificar a las congregaciones dentro de poco, probablemente en los servicios religiosos del este domingo.

Las parroquias le prestan servicio a comunidades católicas con limitaciones específicas, en tanto las misiones y los apostolados atienden a grupos culturales específicos, muchos de ellos compuestos por haitianos.

Todas las entidades religiosas tienen misas y la mayoría tiene sus propios inmuebles. La Arquidiócesis cuenta con 117 parroquias, tres misiones y ocho apostolados.

Hoy, la Arquidiócesis colgó en su página web un reporte referente a los cierres de las instituciones dirigido a sus 800,000 feligreses.

''El arzobispado está inmerso en un período de consulta con las parroquias afectadas a través de sus pastores'', dijo el comunicado. Y luego añadió que ``el arzobispado tomará sus decisiones finales a principios de agosto''.

En la actualidad, muchas iglesias católicas ofrecen servicios en español y creole además de hacerlo en inglés.

Innúmeras diócesis católicas de todo el país han cerrado iglesias en años recientes, entre ellas la Diócesis de Cleveland, que en marzo anunció que cerraría 52 iglesias el año entrante.

Vana said...

ROFL!!! Manuel, your last comment gave me a good laugh!!

Fantomas said...

The usual suspect out of hibernation. Here she comes again a malear este blog

Preparenle el cajon

Fantomas said...
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Berocos Menocál said...

The Cutié news have been widely covered by many sites and blogs, Fantomas' has covered it for awhile, the slave master is on slow gear and out of focus, it happens when people let down their standards and hide themselves from the world and its reality, just because they were in hiding doesn't mean everyone else shared their phobias or dropped off the grid, old news are just that, old news.


"Manolo, averiguame quien es este John, o sera otra de tus nuevas personalidades"

The latter is probably right. How many other new personalities does the slave master sport of late Fantomas?


"The usual suspect out of hibernation. Here she comes again a malear este blog

Preparenle el cajon"

LOL, Fantomas you already know she can't stay away, even though she made a promise at RCAB to completely retire from the Cuban blogosphere, as usual, her comments offer no context, no knowledge of the topic at hand and serve no useful purpose, except to her symbiotic relationship with her master, get the cajón ready is right on.

Where is el Centurión?

Fantomas said...

Lo he dicho repetidamente aqui y no quiero que ningun intelectualoide vaya a pensar que yo no tengo intelecto

I'm not CENTURION

Fantomas said...

Lo digo seriamente. Manolon use the sitemeter wisely. Tell the truth

Berocos Menocál said...

Why tell the slave master to use the site meter wisely?

Slave masters never listen to advice from anyone they consider inferior, any faux intellectual or intelectualoide (Fantoism) bases his judgment on blind opinions and hubris, what makes you believe he would listen to you Fantomas?

Centurion said...

que bolá, que bolón?

asere mansuelo , suelta la botella y para la chimenea de ganja conso'te , de cual solar nichardico eres tu manolon?

coñoooooooooooo , la Vana se caga fuera el cajon de nuevo , caballerooooooooo , la asna no aprenden ni cojone , le tiene que hace falta un buen tolete pa' mamar , chupar y tragar la leche , Vana cuanto cobra uted por una mamada con leche?

Centurion said...

eto eta muelto

po aqui ni la moca de morrocoyo pasan

de ve en cuando Vana la mocadona huele mielda y viene

peo no hay na ni pinga ni cojona

fi'mado pol: Manuel Alberto Tellechea

ex residente de solar nichardico de la Habana , presente mente residiendo en las cloacas de Union City , NJ , EEUU

Centurion said...

Manuel Alberto Tellechea = Nichardo

Cuban in London = Nichardo

John = Maricon y octava personalidad de Mansuelo




Con Fantomas y con Obama , no hace falta mas nada

Fantomas said...

Los que tratan de emancipar la gran labor de Fantomas , el trabajo incansable y patriota que este realiza NO PASARAN

Manuel la bola esta en tu cancha, tienes que decirlo ahora y sin espera

Centurion no es Fantomas

Vana said...

John:

Need any more proof? check out the comas, space then coma, one and the same!!

Fantomas said...

Vana por favor desista . Cada vez que usted abre la boca se llena de lodo aun mas
No hable sin saber. Deje que Manolo mueva la bola de su cancha despues que verifique el site meter
Olvidese de las comas, WILL You

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Fantomas said...

Vana por favor expliquenos a todos los lectores de este blog. Que ha hecho usted constructivamente por la libertad de Cuba en los ultimos 6 meses

Enumere y explique con lujo de detalles

Centurion said...

La burra Vana se cago fuera del cajon , como siempre hace , y ahora que tiene la bocarrona llena de kaka otra vez , se callo la boca y no dice ni papa

Vana dear , que ha hecho usted por la libertad de Cuba ever?

Centurion said...

La burra Vana se cago fuera del cajon , como siempre hace , y ahora que tiene la bocarrona llena de kaka otra vez , se callo la boca y no dice ni papa

Vana dear , que ha hecho usted por la libertad de Cuba ever?

Fantomas said...

Vana dear , le vuelvo a preguntar , por favor expliquenos a todos los lectores de este blog. Que ha hecho usted constructivamente por la libertad de Cuba en los ultimos 6 meses , o desde que usted fue botada por sus padres hacia los EEUU en Pedro Pan

Enumere y explique con lujo de detalles que inquiring minds want to know , o es que no puede contestar esta simple pregunta

Fantomas said...

we are waiting for your big mouth to open up and say something , tell us you have done something for Cuba's freedom Vana dear

Fantomas said...

Tal parece que ahora si se convirtio esto en un circo

Mat get rid de los impostors

lol

Berocos Menocál said...

Vana said...

John:

Need any more proof? check out the comas, space then coma, one and the same!!



WOW, that's quite some logical argument. The MacArthur Park/Boulevard cruiser assumes that no one is capable of mimicking (it means to copy slave) Fantomas' writing faux pas, the night worker is a genius, it's no wonder she walks the streets of L.A. for a living.

John said...

¡Ño!

Manolo:
I really think that before the Catholic Church can address any issue on Priestly celibacy in the Latin rite. It needs to look first at the clerical power given to the Priest and discern what is exclusive for the Priest (namely the sacraments) and what can be open to the laity (administrative roles and other types of ministry.) The reason that Deacons and be ordained and married is that the Deacon does not have the intense amount of responsibilities that would hinder a marriage. Unfortunately, anyone can have an affair and get away with it for some time, but the life of the Latin Rite Catholic Priesthood is at the moment incompatible with marriage.

Fantomas:
I'm sorry for talking about you without talking to you first. I'm John and I've been in and out of Cuban blogs for a very long time. At different times, l've had different nom-de-plumes, but I've never used them at the same time. Quite frankly, I've become disillusioned with the effect that any of our blogs can have on the regime. And I think KC from Killcastro put it best when he told me that blogs aren't going to change anything and that all the blogs do is allow us to grow and develop our thoughts. And with the exception of Yoani's blog, I'd have to agree with him. I'm rather busy and type fast between breaks (hence Centurion's observation of my spelling error.) After much thinking and several close encounters, I've realized that I have nothing to fear, I've shed any nom-de-plumes I used to carry. I've read your material and think you have something to say. I also think that you are NOT Centurion, simply because your writing styles are different. You sound like from you're from the Oriente and Centurion sounds he's from la Habana. I would hope that if you (or anyone) were talented enough to create two or more personalities that it would be used in writing a decent book denouncing Castro and not wasted on blog comments!

Vana:
I think Fantomas is Fantomas and Centurion is Centurion. For what I know you all can be different personalities of one individual, but I take each comment as it is written. It's less of a headache.

Centurion:
¡Que Bolá Que Vuela?

Perdóname pero no soy maricon. Soy hombre: macho, barón y masculino. Ahora, entiendo que con tu fragilidad estás buscando a alguien para acompañárte cuando duermes. Y con eso escribí un anuncio para ayudarte te asere. Lo puedes copiar y publicarlo en tu profile:

Centurión, Centurión
El famoso Burragón
Busca un amante
que sea mujer o maricon

Ojala que esto te ayudas y que pronto tu te encuentras a alguien.

MANUEL TELLECHEA said...

Fantomas is not Centurion

Fantomas said...

And I think KC from Killcastro put it best when he told me that blogs aren't going to change anything and that all the blogs do is allow us to grow and develop our thoughts

yo no se de otros blogs , pero el mio es un blog de denuncia al regimen. Fijese que hace 15 años esto de los blogs no existia y los no cubanos NO podian saber de lo que pasaba en cuba . Pues ahora con la teconologia, todo el publico puede saber de primera mano ya sea en fotos , articulos o videos todo lo que ocurre en la isla
Es decir el regimen ahora ya no puede tener mano libre para golpear , atacar despiadadamente al pueblo porque quien sabe alguien puede estar filmando para you tube

Asi que le digo el internet y los blogs SI haran caer al regimen, recuerde esto solo es el comienzo se pondra mejor

John said...

Fantomas
I will agree that some blogs have become windows for the world to look into Cuba. And any blog with "insiders," poses a threat to the state's image. However, unless the blog is coming from Cuba and actually challenging the governments strangle on the freedom of speech. The best change that an outside blog can do is inform ignorant commie sympathizers. Your blog has a greater potential to challenge the minds of people who read it and not realize who Castro really is, then it does to bring down a regime who only has to make cosmetic changes to avoid Youtube.

Fantomas said...

The best change that an outside blog can do is inform ignorant commie sympathizers

that is precisely my point , to turn the international attention on castro

Entonces una vez aparecen muchas voces unidas ( blogs) con el mismo enfasis se pudieran coordinar acciones junto con los blogeros de cuba , recuerde la tecnologia es vital para comunicarse aun dentro de la isla, hacen falta celulares, mas internet , blogs , e mails para organizar a las masas y todo esto se puede lograr con apretar un boton

Fantomas said...

Es decir el regimen ahora ya no puede tener mano libre para golpear , atacar despiadadamente al pueblo porque quien sabe alguien puede estar filmando para you tube

............

Fiseje el escandalo del inocente video de panfilo

Centurion said...

John el cura = John Long Fellow aka Lou Dobbs

como esta la cabaña en el riverside John?

Centurion said...

Berocos Menocál said...

Vana said...

John:

Need any more proof? check out the comas, space then coma, one and the same!!



WOW, that's quite some logical argument. The MacArthur Park/Boulevard cruiser assumes that no one is capable of mimicking (it means to copy slave) Fantomas' writing faux pas, the night worker is a genius, it's no wonder she walks the streets of L.A. for a living.




coño , menocal batea un jonron con se comment , Vana dear , que dice usted ahora?

el silencio de Vana speaks volumes , algo que ella nunca puede hacer porque es una bruta

Fantomas said...

de El veraz dijo...
Honores Inmerecidos

Por Jorge Felix
Editor del Semanario ¨El Veraz¨

Pocas veces he tenido como práctica, entrar en contradicciones menores, mientras en Cuba exista el enemigo común de todos los cubanos, la Dictadura que a diario subyuga y abusa de nuestro pueblo.

Siempre he tenido como principio, unirme a todo aquello que este en contra del gobierno cubano, sin mirar corrientes filosóficas.

He criticado sin pretender ser dueño de la verdad, solo como un cubano común, aquello que incluso, en esta lucha en contra de la dictadura, no me ha parecido correcto, incorporándome de inmediato al objetivo común, que es la libertad de nuestro país.

Hoy me toca tomar partido y trataré de ser lo mas justo posible, teniendo sobre todo en cuenta, que cada cubano en Libertad es una Republica, como que también el lobo del cubano es el propio cubano.

Quizás por estas dos particularidades de la nacionalidad cubana, tanto en Cuba como fuera, nuestro país aún no es libre y que 50 años de Dictadura, represión y pobreza, no nos han enseñado humildad.

Podemos entender la disparidad de pensamientos y opiniones, pero lo sucedido en días pasados de parte de 2 o 3 bloguers en el interior de Cuba con relación a la convocatoria sana, noble, sin protagonismo, que hicieron otros bloguers cubanos en el exterior, me parece el colmo de la mezquindad, algo que se vio bien feo, las ansias de protagonismo.

Pero sobre todo tiene ese tufo a envidia, que es una de las peores características que ha hecho florecer en el pueblo de Cuba, el gobierno cubano. Envidia porque quizás no se les ocurrió a ellos.

Debemos recordarle a estos bloguers, concretamente Yoani Sánchez, Reinaldo Escobar y Miriam Celaya, que si tienen visitas en sus blogs, es debido a la publicidad gratuita que en el exilio cubano, se le ha dado a sus blogs, tanto en televisión, radio, como en la Internet.

Debemos recordarle a Yoani Sánchez y su esposo Reinaldo Escobar, que deben aterrizar… no son los Emperadores de los bloguers cubanos, no son el Alcalde y la Primera Dama del Municipio Taco Taco.

La lucha por la libertad de Cuba no necesita ni de reverencias ni de alfombras rojas.

Nadie tiene la supremacía en la lucha por la libertad de Cuba, nadie tiene mejor derecho que otros en esa lucha. Nadie puede creerse mejor que otros en esta lucha. Tiene tanto valor y merito lo que se escribe contra la Dictadura dentro de Cuba como lo que se escribe fuera.

Fantomas said...

Debe existir respeto por lo que hacen otros, por muy modesto que sea. Si no se respeta lo que hacen otros, no se puede exigir respeto.

Existen cientos de blogs cubanos en el exterior que luchan a cambio de nada… sin pedir ni recibir un dólar de nadie, haciendo miles de sacrificios personales, sin cebarse a costa de la libertad de Cuba.

Existen cientos de blogs cubanos en el exterior que luchan sin charlatanería, sin ansias de protagonismo, sin buscar notoriedad frente a un micrófono o una cámara de televisión, sin arrogancia, humildemente, solo por el ideal común, el fin de la dictadura cubana y la libertad del nuestro pais.

Y si necesitamos más unanimidad en esta lucha, la necesitamos como el aire que respiramos, no la falsa unanimidad de los Castros… la unanimidad sincera, aquella que se hace a cambio de nada y sin esperar nada que no sea la libertad de Cuba.

En el exterior, esa es nuestra unanimidad, la decisión de hombres y mujeres libres, de escoger el método de lucha que estime conveniente en contra del enemigo común, denunciando desde diferentes frentes lo que sucede en Cuba y ayudar acabar por lo claro y sin rodeos… con el mito de la mal llamada revolucion y por consiguiente la Dictadura que gobierna a Cuba.

8:54 PM
De El veraz dijo...
Cuando los jóvenes Margarita García Alonso, José Luis Sito y Armando Añel humildemente, me enviaron la convocatoria, no lo pensé dos veces: La puse por una semana en nuestro Semanario.

Nadie me obligo a nada, nadie me tuvo que hacer una reverencia, nadie tuvo que tener conmigo un trato especial, nadie me pago, nadie me puso una pistola en la sien.

Solo entendi el mensaje y me uní a el sin cuestionar, porque no era el momento de cuestionar, era el momento de actuar en favor de una causa noble

Puse la entusiasta idea de estos jóvenes cubanos en primer lugar y este Semanario pasó a un segundo lugar.

Particularmente me han parecido bien mezquinas las palabras de Reinaldo Escobar cuando dice:

No me sumo a esta iniciativa porque sienta un precedente que rompe con una de mis normas personales que se reduce a un principio, si se quiere egoísta: no me gusta que me dicten lo que tengo que escribir.

Cabe preguntarle a Reinaldo Escobar:

¿Desde cuando cumple con este principio? ¿Desde cuando no escribe, hace, piensa y dice lo que quiere el gobierno cubano?

Sabemos desde cuando… desde que el salario que les pagaba el gobierno cubano, no le alcanzaba para comprar la pizza de boniato y el vaso vampisol en la esquina... y optaron por buscarse los dólares a costa de la libertad de Cuba.

Creo que en el exilio muchas veces, les hemos brindado honores a quienes el tiempo nos ha dicho que no deberíamos brindárselo. Criemos cuervos y nos sacaran los ojos.

Honores a quien honor realmente se merecen. Debemos aprender mejor a quien darselos. La Libertad de Cuba no es un concurso de Simpatia.

Yo por mi parte… a partir de este momento me desmarco de ellos, porque comienzo a ver, como se le sale la oreja peluda al monstruo.

8:54 PM

John said...

Centurion, ¿de que mierda habla? Riverside? No soy cura ni soy john longfellow ni soy lou dobbs. Pero que tremenda paja mental tiene usted. Mi ultimo nom-de-plume era "Mi Tres Cubano." Pero ya se me perdió el miedo y ahora voy por mi nombre actual. Soy quien soy sin máscara y sin nom-de-plume.

Fantomas, entiendo la posibilidad que tienes con un blog que publica noticias ocultas desde Cuba. Pero no estoy totalmente convencido que un blog fuera del país puede hacer cambios concretos en Cuba. Y aunque no estoy totalmente convencido de la productividad de tu blog, lo respeto por que hablas encontra de castro... Y hablas sin miedo.

Berocos Menocál said...

John:

Your Spanish is written as many Americans write English. Were you born in Cuba? Did you not grow up on the former Pearl of the Caribbean?

Fantomas said...

Fantomas, entiendo la posibilidad que tienes con un blog que publica noticias ocultas desde Cuba. Pero no estoy totalmente convencido que un blog fuera del país puede hacer cambios concretos en Cuba. Y aunque no estoy totalmente convencido de la productividad de tu blog, lo respeto por que hablas encontra de castro... Y hablas sin miedo

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La productividad de mi blog es A plus. Yo siempro ando produciendo algo. Te aseguro que en 3 años mi blog ha producido mejor material que lo que ha producido el granma en 50 años

John said...

Berocos, it is true that my Spanish writing is weak, and very astute for you noticing this detail. No I was not born in Cuba, my family fled castro long before my birth. I have read and spoken a great deal in Spanish, and my accent is near flawless. However, I have not written much and thus my writing style in Spanish is horrible. It's a struggle of mine, and now that I'm far away from any Spanish speaker it is all the more difficult.

Fantomas said...
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Fantomas said...

Caso de los espias


Yo solo espero que nuestro Presidente Obama no se deje influenciar por castro y los Republicanos esta vez


Las conversaciones MIGRATORIAS y el deshielo de 50 años DEBEN CONTINUAR A PASOS AGIGANTADOS como si este incidente de los 2 espias no hubiese ocurrido

SEñores no nos dejemos engañar , fidel esta tratando de enemistarse aun mas con los EEUU para que se caigan las conversaciones

ya lo hizo con el Mariel, despues con los balseros del 94 maleconazo , con el derribo de las avionetas y ahora trataron con los 7 que se trataban de escapar y aterrizaron en frente de la sina

Esto esta mas que claro. que los espias paguen y QUE CONTINUEN LAS CONVERSACIONES

Atento Obama te estan preparando la camita

Centurion said...

Vana dear , donde esta usted , por que se esconde?

si prefiere me puede responder en mi glorioso blog

www.abajofidel.blogspot.com

alli la espero y recuerde no cagarse fuera del cajon



mansuelo asere , sal de la cueva y lee el comentario que te dejaron en RCAB a las 3:03 PM de hoy , junio 6 , 2009 , alguien te quiere hacer daño , se hombre y defiendete , yo no puedo hacerlo por ti en to los laos , deja ya de ser cobarde

en el 2009 con Fantomas y con Obama , no hace falta mas nada

Centurion said...

John , lavate la boca con jabon , parece que te gusta decir malas palabras y tambien insultar a tus semejantes , estas dando mal ejemplo de lo que te enseñan en la iglesia catolica , la ramera de Babilonia no practica esas malas costumbres , acuerdate de lavarte la boca con cepillo de hierro y jabon de mecanico , te hace mucha falta

John said...

Dos claves para centurión

Prra cu ta ca ta
Prra cu ta ca ta
Prra cu ta ay mamá inés
Ay mamá inés
El centurión se cagó en mi fe
Ay mamá inés ay mamá inés
El centurión se cagó en mi fe

Asere, cuando habres la boca en contra de mi fe te cagas fuera del cajón. Es obvio que no sabes verdaderamente de lo que dices y criticas sin pensar. Ahora, es posible que necesito lavar mi boca pero sabes que no soy el único. Y aunque no tengo jabón mecánico, si tengo jabón de lejía. Que piensas si rompo un pedazo de ese jabón y te lo mando. Y después que yo limpio mi boca, tu te hagas una buena limpieza. ¿Está bien?

Fantomas said...

Yo que venia a leerme un buen poema de Marti y ahora me encuentro con esto

Manuel A.Tellechea said...

Manuel A. Tellechea is not Phil Spector.

MANUEL TELLECHEA said...

I'm not Oprah either

MANUEL TELLECHEA said...

http://www.elpais.com/fotogaleria/imagenes/censuradas/Berlusconi/6527-1/elpgal/

For my loyal readers here is the private picture album of Italian prime minister

Centurion said...

guerra sin cuartel entre Fantomas y Varela

quien ganara?

nadie derrota a Fantomas

preguntenle a chechechea , el nichardo cobarde y maricon de las cloacas de NJ



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John deja ya de hacer aguaje que to el mundo sabe que tu eres otra personalidad de chechechea , la octava ya , parece que te escapaste de Mazorra despues que te violara un cura en el seminario o en el entrenamiento de monaguillo sal ya de la cloaca , maricon nichardo , tus personalidades tambien incluyendo a Vana la putana

Centurion said...

Menocal yo tengo los cojones mas grandes que usted y que el ex presidente cubano del mismo nombre suyo

Fantomas said...

Manuel A.Tellechea said...

Manuel A. Tellechea is not Phil Spector.

MANUEL TELLECHEA said...

I'm not Oprah either


mansuelo te estan dando duro , sal de la cueva y defiendete asere , esto eata mas muerto que un cementerio , por aqui ni las moscas pasan ya

vana dear , digale a la personalidad que este en jefatura que la deje salir a hablar aqui , le hecho de menos a sus episodios cacalitrosos , yo se que es usted la que esta dejando comentarios anonimos en el RCAB , no me force a sacar la cabilla , porque cuando lo haga se van a joder , ya me oiste mansuelo y tus personalidades

Fantomas said...

Fantomas falso a a vista

No pasaran

lol

Berocos Menocál said...

James W. Von Brunn = Tomas Estrada Palma

Tomas Estrada Palma = 9/11 Truther

9/11 Truthers = CRAZY WHACKOS

'Nuff said.

Berocos Menocál said...

Estrada Palma is again calling himself "a Cuban exile"

This whack job must swallow his own BS, he was born in the USA, has never lived anywhere else, but yet, as far as he is concerned that somehow qualifies him to be a Cuban exile, a wanna be exile perhaps, an impostor for certain, a Cuban he is not.

Centurion said...

Vana a usted le gusta tirar la piedra y esconder la mano , todos los que la conocemos de hace años sabemos que usted es la que esta dejando insultos contra Fantomas en RCAB , cuando le tiren las piedras a usted no venga aqui llorando y quejandose como una puta callejera de LA , sabemos que usted es una Habanera solariega , vallase a sus solar y cagese fuera del cajon alli

Centurion said...

Esto esta muerto , por aqui ni las moscas pasan ya

Alan Nal said...

¿Te consideras parte de la Blogosfera Cubana, vivas o no en la isla? ¡Entonces este aviso es para ti!

Te invitamos a llenar una abarcadora Encuesta sobre la Blogosfera Cubana.

Si no puedes llenar la encuesta online o no tienes acceso a Internet, escribe un mensaje a: encuesta@lahuelladelblog.com solicitando la encuesta como documento de texto, y envíanos después las respuestas por email.

¿Habrá más bloggers cubanos hombres que mujeres? ¿Será el tema político el más importante en los blogs sobre Cuba?

¡Sé parte de las estadísticas que queremos procesar! ¡Ayúdanos a conocer mejor a la Blogosfera Cubana y a sus bloggers!

Recibe mientras un saludo bloguero.

Vana said...

Manuel:

Dear friend have a very happy father's day, may you enjoy your day with your loved ones.

Centurion said...

mansuelo tu estas tostao , te saludas a ti mismo con una de tus personalidades , asere sal de la cueva en la cloaca y ve a un psiquiatra que aqui to los que te conocemos de hace años sabemos que Vana eres tu , la personalidad opuesta de la de manuel , la Vana es tu lado burra , la manuel es la sabia niche maricon que se esconde en la cloaca para oler la peste que deja la Vana cada ves que se caga fuera del cajon

Centurion said...

coñoooooooooo que nombre caballero

Al Nalgal , imaginense ese maricon con ese nombre en las escuelas cubanas , caballero se tiene que suicidar porque el guaguanco con el nombrete ese seria diario y sin tregua , o a lo mejor es otra nueva personalidad de mansuelo