tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post1004341280469671618..comments2023-11-02T05:39:15.915-04:00Comments on José Martí Blog: From Red to Pink: The "Outing" of José Martí (Who Was Not Gay)Manuel A.Tellecheahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08637085685599554349noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-35594952633959841392014-09-08T07:54:44.801-04:002014-09-08T07:54:44.801-04:00"querer a mujer es bueno,pero acaso es mejor ..."querer a mujer es bueno,pero acaso es mejor querer a hombre."<br />este frase claremente es homoerotica,jose marti criticaba la pederastia y la afeminacion,en ningun caso la homosexualidad como tal,la cual trato de desviscunlar de estos dos casos.elgnosticohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06443510779156382071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-63497657704970058432009-09-13T23:24:42.399-04:002009-09-13T23:24:42.399-04:00A quien tu le hablas Manuel , de que rayos tu habl...A quien tu le hablas Manuel , de que rayos tu hablas con esto?<br /><br />Tomás Moro:<br /><br />¿Cómo dice que More era "un hombre de su época" cuando se le conoce como "A Man For All Seasons"? Bueno, tiene Vd. razón y no las hagiografías. More fue "hombre de su época" -- cruel e implacable con sus enemigos (que eran todos los que no profesaban su fe). Como Canciller de Inglaterra, Thomas More quemó en la hoguera a seis "herejes" y mutiló a 40 más. Hasta confesó que no aspiraba a nada más que ser el azote de los "herejes". Hombres de semejante madera fueron responsables por los mismos campos de UMAP que Vd. deplora entre otras barbaridades.<br /><br />Ahora, si no quiere contestar, ésa es su prerrogativa. No tiene que pedirme permiso para dimitir.<br /><br />Sunday - 9/13/2009 10:35 PMFantomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06363858893311294075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-63736554110128904662009-09-13T22:35:18.956-04:002009-09-13T22:35:18.956-04:00Tomás Moro:
¿Cómo dice que More era "un homb...Tomás Moro:<br /><br />¿Cómo dice que More era "un hombre de su época" cuando se le conoce como <em>"A Man For All Seasons"?</em> Bueno, tiene Vd. razón y no las hagiografías. More fue "hombre de su época" -- cruel e implacable con sus enemigos (que eran todos los que no profesaban su fe). Como Canciller de Inglaterra, Thomas More quemó en la hoguera a seis "herejes" y mutiló a 40 más. Hasta confesó que no aspiraba a nada más que ser el azote de los "herejes". Hombres de semejante madera fueron responsables por los mismos campos de UMAP que Vd. deplora entre otras barbaridades.<br /><br />Ahora, si no quiere contestar, ésa es su prerrogativa. No tiene que pedirme permiso para dimitir.Manuel A.Tellecheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637085685599554349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-23584440224695990272009-08-02T15:10:37.709-04:002009-08-02T15:10:37.709-04:00BTW,I have added a long paragraph concerning Martí...BTW,I have added a long paragraph concerning Martí's acquaintance with Richard von Krafft-Ebin's <i>Psychopathia Sexualis</i> (1886).Manuel A.Tellecheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637085685599554349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-51748210298215941932009-08-02T14:53:05.675-04:002009-08-02T14:53:05.675-04:00"Troposon":
No te voy a molestar con mi..."Troposon":<br /><br />No te voy a molestar con mis razones, que son muchas y bastante contundentes. Si quieres pasar por "Troposon," que así sea.<br /><br />La "sexualidad andrógina" que ahora le atribuyes a Martí es peor, mucho peor, que la homosexualidad.Manuel A.Tellecheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637085685599554349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-71752743680967503572009-08-02T12:56:48.616-04:002009-08-02T12:56:48.616-04:00Tellechea, no sé porqué piensas que soy el autor d...Tellechea, no sé porqué piensas que soy el autor de artículo de marras. De todas formas, lo que te queria agregar a tu excelente ensayo, es que no se trata de homosexualismo, sino de una sexualidad sui generis…androgina, celebral, mistica…Troposonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13867846052616968607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-31234679236642493032009-08-02T02:26:32.895-04:002009-08-02T02:26:32.895-04:00Professor Camacho (aka "Troposon"):
Tha...Professor Camacho (aka "Troposon"):<br /><br />Thank-you for visiting <b>JMB</b> and directing us to your article <a href="http://www.dissidences.org/ApostolMarti.html" rel="nofollow">"La virilidad (amenazada) del apóstol Martí: una polémica pospuesta."</a> <br /><br />You are right: your study does appear to be the first to suggest that José Martí was <i>at least</i> a latent homosexual. If I had known about it, I should certainly have assigned to you the credit for this "discovery." <br /><br />I note that you make your case by citing older critics who have emphasized Martí's "feminine side" (i.e. his kindness) without actually asserting that he was "gay." (These include the lesbian poet Gabriela Mistral.) The suggestion that a man must be either "brute or fruit" is an odd way to argue that Martí (or anyone) is gay and clearly does not advance your agenda (whatever it is).Manuel A.Tellecheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637085685599554349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-76350218421439522422009-08-02T00:22:12.111-04:002009-08-02T00:22:12.111-04:00http://www.dissidences.org/ApostolMarti.htmlhttp://www.dissidences.org/ApostolMarti.htmlTroposonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18220414524526802568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-62991588636308271012009-08-02T00:21:53.723-04:002009-08-02T00:21:53.723-04:00Tellechea, read this essay and the one from 2001. ...Tellechea, read this essay and the one from 2001. This is the root of all evil!<br /><br />saludos,Troposonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18220414524526802568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-73799470853243620742009-07-31T13:56:43.801-04:002009-07-31T13:56:43.801-04:00And the truth shall set you free.
Manuel:
See ho...And the truth shall set you free.<br /><br />Manuel:<br /><br />See how needed you are in the blog-sphere! glad a reporter visited so he can read the truth.<br /><br />Dear friend I don't hand out my loyalty and friendship lightly, it must be deserved, dear man you are most deserving, never have I met a more righteous man than you, you have shown through all the tribulations in your blogs that you are my friend and for that I thank you.Vanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08340793573089792646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-48698176828662054602009-07-30T18:39:53.779-04:002009-07-30T18:39:53.779-04:00Vana:
I am deeply touched by your kind words whic...Vana:<br /><br />I am deeply touched by your kind words which are always a great source of encouragement to me. I know that you have expressed yourself in the same terms on Varela's blog, and if I have not already done so, let me thank you again for your steadfast support here and everywhere.<br /><br />Today <b>JMB</b> was visited by a reporter from the <i>Chicago Tribune</i> who googled "José Martí was gay." I can only suppose that he was writing a review of Zaldívar's film <i>Martí and I</i> and wanted to verify its contents. I hope that he found here what he needed to know. <br /><br />I hope, for my part, that I will always be able to keep pace with the falsifiers, ever-multiplying, of country's history and the libelers of its great men.Manuel A.Tellecheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637085685599554349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-63234185502077852432009-07-30T13:33:58.850-04:002009-07-30T13:33:58.850-04:00Vargas Vila's tribute to Marti moved me to tea...Vargas Vila's tribute to Marti moved me to tears, Marti was Christlike toward his fellow men, I read a biography about him years ago, please do not ask me who the author was, I do not remember, where someone said Marti had called the anexionistas viles, Marti defended himself by saying that those words never came out of his mouth since he could never think that a Cubano era vil. Little did Marti know that the vilest of men one day would become dictator to his flock.<br /><br />You dear man are Marti like, you live your life emulating him, for you are the most democratic and tolerant man I know.<br /><br />Again thank you for explaining the Apostle to us.Vanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08340793573089792646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-76154791427881831702009-07-28T13:41:47.910-04:002009-07-28T13:41:47.910-04:00Manuel:
Is obvious from her last text that you ci...Manuel:<br /><br />Is obvious from her last text that you cite, that she does not believe Marti to be homosexual, but she cannot stop herself from continuously citing Alfredo, seems quite obsessed with it.<br /><br />Though in her blog she does plant a gay seed about Marti, what amazed me, is that not one of her readers takes her to task, they all seem to agree with her while giving her kudos, unbelievable!!<br /><br />Wonder how I missed this post in her blog because I read her from time to time, though sporadically, I must confess I'm not a regular there.<br /><br />Thank you for posting this and alerting us (me?) to the poison sometimes directed at our Apostle, thank God we have you to refute it.Vanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08340793573089792646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-58100879314964950562009-07-28T08:44:16.981-04:002009-07-28T08:44:16.981-04:00Vana:
I have expanded this post with linked citat...Vana:<br /><br />I have expanded this post with linked citations from Zoé Valdés' blogs extending to 2006. It appears that her idea that Martí was gay (or at least homoerotic) has very deep roots and has become what defines him as a hero in her eyes.Manuel A.Tellecheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637085685599554349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-42250886493227812032009-07-27T21:00:12.096-04:002009-07-27T21:00:12.096-04:00Manuel:
Proud Iam to call you my friend, as long ...Manuel:<br /><br />Proud Iam to call you my friend, as long as you write I'll be there to read you, those who don't are missing out.<br /><br />All Cubans should be proud that you have taken on the task of explaining the Apostle to us, I for one eat it up, guess you and I are the only Martianos left.Vanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08340793573089792646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-12630841557743395942009-07-27T20:11:15.827-04:002009-07-27T20:11:15.827-04:00Vana:
You have become practically the only reader...Vana:<br /><br />You have become practically the only reader of this blog. <b>RCAB,</b> though dead, has had a vigorous afterlife and continues to attract not only the usual suspects but new visitors every day, whereas <b>JMB</b>, dedicated to Martí, is a virtual tomb. Our long ordeal will be longer because Cubans have delegated Martí to the fringes of their existence, and if they invoke him at all, it is not in the spirit that he should be invoked, as this post bears witness to.<br /><br />But, my dear friend, I need only one reader to justify my efforts and I am happy and proud that it is you.Manuel A.Tellecheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637085685599554349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-47609197070556602082009-07-27T16:24:10.331-04:002009-07-27T16:24:10.331-04:00Though Marti viewed it as a flaw and a weakness he...Though Marti viewed it as a flaw and a weakness he tolerated homosexuals, I would not have expected less of him! what a great man he was!!<br /><br />I always learn from you my friend, that is why I cherish your writings, you might as well give us part three.Vanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08340793573089792646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34496910.post-65695585329223324902009-07-25T19:12:19.859-04:002009-07-25T19:12:19.859-04:00I wonder what possessed Zoe to believe Alfredo as ...I wonder what possessed Zoe to believe Alfredo as a homosexual poem? I do not interpret it that way at all, I have heard people refer to him as a womanizer and a drunk, now we are bringing homosexuality into the picture! very easy to put labels on people who are not around to defend themselves.<br /><br /> Marti spoke of love in many of his poems, there is such a thing as brotherly and sisterly love, to interpret it any other way is wanting to read something that simply is not there.<br /><br />Marti was such a tolerant man that it surprises me he had an opinion on homosexuality, looking forward to part two.<br /><br />The movie you refer to sickened me, who stole six pages from my diary indeed!! when we clearly know that poem has always been around.Vanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08340793573089792646noreply@blogger.com